Classic song (plus video): Siouxsie and the Banshees "Spellbound"
Following the footsteps of a red dawn dance - we are entranced… Spellbound!
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Following the footsteps of a red dawn dance - we are entranced… Spellbound!
a pleasant surprise this morning…
I dig it - check em out: We Have Band
I think this is brilliant -
some people may see through this as a gimmick to actually buy the hard CD, which it likely is - but the point is that its a GREAT gimmick and I have believed in this idea for awhile. I always loved actually getting a CD and going through the experience of opening it, getting into the artwork and liner notes, really the “whole” of the CD buying experience. I think others would enjoy it as well should they have the chance, the problem is that the current generation of 18-25 year olds missed the last era of that and are now conditioned to believe that a CD and its packaging are useless. I’m not saying its vital or anything, and MP3’s are a far more efficient medium, BUT why not have BOTH, since MP3’s cost nothing to produce. You buy a hard copy of an album like this because there is a premium, something unique that adds to it that you can’t duplicate digitally, AND you get instant access to the music via MP3 download. The best of both worlds.
Anyway, bottom-line is I think this is brilliant and I hope to see more things like it. I was only a casual fan of MGMT but I think its safe to say that I’ll actually buy this.
“The album will come packaged with a 32-page booklet, a coin used to scratch off the cover, and a general cheesiness.”
Congratulations is due out on April 13.
I remember watching this air originally sometime around ‘04-‘05. I knew of the band but wasn’t really crazy about them - I think they were still called just Death From Above at the time (they would later have to add-in the 1979 to avoid confusion with the record label, and it was often abbreviated as DFA 1979). Then I saw this performance which really invigorated me. The part with Max coming in really made it awesome, in fact I have been mentioning it to people ever since but few seem to have actually seen it.
Looking at it now it wasn’t quite as thrilling as I remembered - but that isn’t to say its not great. I still really love this clip, and I think what is hard to see was just how ahead of the curve these guys were. It wasn’t that long ago, but the indie-band landscape was quite different from what we have today. There weren’t a whole lot of 2-piece “bands” or even “dj-bands” or anything like what you see today. There was the White Stripes and that was about it, and these guys were as far from the white stripes as you could get - they’re almost the polar opposite, but they share the “indie” aesthetic and therefore seem much more similar.
Anyhow, while dfa 1979 were off to a great start they burned out prematurely and never fully blossomed - I think they could have gone really far had they kept at it. I never really got into them but I feel like I should really check their stuff out again. Just because I wasn’t crazy about it then doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be exactly what I’m looking for now.
as for the two guys from the band, the bass player Jesse is now one half of the DJ-outfit MSTRKRFT. the other guy is also still a musician. there really isn’t a big back story to their break-up, they claim it was just artistic differences which makes sense if you look at the music each guy is making now. I’m sure there’ll be a reunion at some point.
When I was interviewing for my current job earlier this year, one of the topics of contention was that of new business, or to be more specific, new clients. In our business, that simply means BANDS, and really what we were talking about was signing on additional artists to complement our “primary” client. I like to think that I got to where I am by always thinking one or two steps ahead. I didn’t like the idea of having all of our eggs in just one basket, regardless of how big that basket was or how low maintenance. Plus, managing the career of an established, successful group didn’t sound all that exciting to me. It sounded GOOD, but not EXCITING. I wanted to find, develop, and break NEW artists. I still do want that, but that wasn’t really a priority here. I had to come to terms with that before accepting that job, which I later did.
The old man has a philosophy that I have come to believe in; it’s so much better to have one truly great band that doesn’t keep you up at night then a bunch of smaller bands that occupy all of your time and drive you nuts. For us, the one client we currently have is both large enough and low maintenance enough that they provide a nice income with little to no drama. We also don’t spend every waking second on them because truth be told, they are nice guys who are able to manage their personal lives and don’t call us up every time they want to record a show on Tivo. So, when the band is off-cycle we have some downtime to fill. The old man has his first love to keep him busy, golf. I have my first love, music. I still spend an inordinate amount of time searching for NEW music. I have always done that and will always do that, and thats why I wanted to work in this business in the first place. Anyway, once I got started here I learned that he wasn’t completely opposed to the idea of bringing other artists into the fold, but it wasn’t going to be that easy either.
The path of least resistance is to find a ready-established act that will bring in some significant income almost immediately with minimal effort. That means, no BRAND NEW acts, no “baby” bands or “buzz” bands. Again, not all that exciting at face value, although I could think of some that fit his criteria that I would be THRILLED to be managing.
We have discussed some bands that would be good for us to work with but as of yet nothing has happened. The relationship between manager and artist is basically like marriage, so you don’t just enter into that type of arrangement haphazardly.
Of course, I didn’t get where I am today by always “coloring inside the lines”, and in all honesty I think the old man knows me well enough to know that. So, in my spare time I have been looking for and even talking to some artists with the intention of possibly working together. My thinking is that I’ll figure out how to get the old man on-board after I get the bands cocked & ready. Lets look at the three that I have spoken with and discuss them a little bit.
1. The Drums
This band definitely qualifies as a “buzz band”, in my opinion they’re not even a baby band yet. As it looks right now they will probably get there soon because they are getting a nice buzz primarily on the blog scene. I found them on Hype Machine and to be honest, the music didn’t THRILL me, which ultimately is the litmus test that should tell you whether or not you are right to be in a relationship or not. I thought the music was catchy, but what really impressed me was their influences. Aside from the surf-rock vibe a la the Beach Boys, they were really into the early Factory records post-punk sound, in particular one of the more obscure bands on the label, The Wake. Of course, that band is one of my all time favorites but they remain mostly unknown, especially here in the US. So when I see a new young band from the states is so heavily influenced by them (they even go so far to state that it was one of their songs that was responsible for the band starting in the first place) I really took notice.
I went on their myspace page and they only had 2 songs up, so they were really just starting out. They also didn’t list a manager, so I thought what the heck, how many bands start-up because they love The Wake? Maybe you have to fully grasp just how obscure that band is and how much I have enjoyed their music over the years. The email I sent them was pretty simple, just saying that I work for a management company and dug their sound, and was also really into The Wake. Then I said that if they didn’t yet have any representation that I would love to chat with them about where they see themselves and where they’d like to go.
They responded, thanking me for the praise and inquiring as to what other clients we managed. So I told them, but added that we were interested in adding some new young talent to the roster (basically a lie, but what the fuck do they know. Like I said, I was looking for new talent and I was prepared to make the old man see that a new band could be worth the investment). I kept it pretty short and sweet. I could have pursued them a lot harder but like I said, I wasn’t insanely crazy about the music, I just thought it was good and had some potential.
Anyway, that was it. Never heard back from em. Being that the music didn’t thrill me I quickly forgot about it. A few months later, they are building a strong momentum and developing a solid buzz, especially in the NME who loves them (usually a good thing for US bands). I see now that they have signed on with one of the big management firms, so obviously I’m not the only one that sees some potential in them. I’ll definitely follow their career just to see how they do and what ‘might’ have been.
This one has a lot more back-story. I found these guys awhile back, either 2005 or 2006, before I even got myself into the music business. I always followed their career to the best of my ability, which was kind of difficult at times. They didn’t post that much on their myspace or on their official site. They kinda reminded me of my favorite band Deadsy (the band that gave me my first job in the biz) in that way. With WRM, I was absolutely crazy about their music, I searched for everything of theirs that I could get my hands on and still I wanted more. They passed the litmus test.
In 2007 when I was working on the road, I decided to try reaching out to them. I sent a message through myspace saying that I was going to be in town for a few days, I would love to have them come to the show as my guest, or even just get together for a beer or something. I noticed that they didn’t have a manager listed on their myspace page, but I didn’t really know what I wanted to achieve here. I was still trying to get my own footing in the business, but I had the idea even back then that I might like to manage them.
They responded. We got together to drink and talk, mostly about music. We had a good vibe, but ultimately I felt that I wasn’t ready, getting involved would only be a disservice to them because I couldn’t really provide them what they needed yet.
Fast-forward to this year, we have kept in touch all this time and I finally feel as though I am ready to work with them and can give them the service that they deserve. We talk again and the band seems very positive about working together, they even start forwarding me emails of people looking to do business with the band. There’s just one catch this time, there is another guy who is involved that is kind of the unofficial ‘acting’ manager. It turns out that the guy manages another band that is really starting to do some decent business, so I think great, we both have other big bands that we work on, and maybe together we can jam on WRM and leverage both of our assets. He was actually coming to LA on business so we could get together and talk. This was starting to sound really great to me.
We got together for Sushi and then went to see Franz at the Palladium. The talk was good, not great, but good. He was in town for his other band and so I gave him the benefit of the doubt why he wasn’t so enthusiastic about WRM; it seemed like he had a lot on his mind, but he did seem keen on working together on them with me. He told me he just needed some time to finish up some other business and go back to the UK to talk with the band.
After about a month I got sick of waiting to hear from him, so I emailed the band saying that I was ready to go to the wall for them, and it’s now or never. I got back a very earnest response from them saying that they were very excited about working with me, but unfortunately the other manager had just accepted a job with one of the big management firms that precluded him from getting into any other arrangements with anyone else. Later, I heard from the dude himself, he basically reiterated the same thing but he also added that “big mgmt. company” that he now works for is really into working on WRM, so that I could rest assured that they would be in good hands.
Now, obviously I was disappointed, but I do want whats best for them. If this other company is interested in working them, then thats great and I’m happy for them. I just don’t know if I really believe it. Time will tell I guess, but as of yet it doesn’t seem as though anything “official” has happened - there are a few things that are indicators of an “official” agreement happening and thus far I haven’t seen any of them, so we’ll see.
3. Wax / EOM
This one a buddy of mine put me onto. I’ll try to make this quick since this post is getting reallllly long. I have this friend from back home, we were buds way back when but then lost touch. Now through the miracle of social networking we have found each other and it just so happens that we both live in LA and work in the music business. What a coincidence.
So my friend asks me out to lunch and then pitches me. He has found some MC that he swears is the next eminem, maybe even BETTER than eminem. I’m skeptical, and not only that I really have no interest in hip-hop anymore. Even being involved with “urban” artists can be problematic, or so I’ve heard. A little back-story here, there was a time when hip-hop & rap were ALL I listened to. I guess technically speaking, I got my first REAL start in the music biz writing for the popular rap website, allhiphop.com. However, like Nas says, Hip-Hop is Dead, and with it went all of my interest in it.
So I’m very skeptical about this artist and even if he is good, I highly doubt that I would want to be involved. We go out to the car and my friend pops in a CD.
Hmmmmm…
ok, this is really good. Really, really good. I’m pleasantly surprised, and I didn’t want to be. It felt weird, it was like listening to the good rap music that I remember USED to exist, but hasn’t for awhile. The song was so clever, full of witty one-liners, metaphors and pun’s, all the stuff that makes rap music fun and interesting. It reminded me of Chino XL’s “No Complex” which for a long time held my #1 spot for “most clever hip-hop track”. Wow, I thought, this guy really COULD be better than eminem… not that that means he will ever touch his success, but Em was so big that even a fraction of his success would be pretty great. Maybe… just maybe…
I get the other details about this guy, and the picture just keeps getting better. He’s white, not like nerdy white or thug white, just like, a cool white guy. Very marketable. He has a good look and a good vibe. To me he seemed like a white version of Mos Def, but with more musical talent. Whats more, it isn’t just the MC that we’re talking about here, he had been working with this sick new producer that I could really see being a bonafide success on his own. Honestly, I wouldn’t make this shit up, see for yourself. On his myspace page, he has some really sick music, studio stuff & random freestyles… he even has three extremely well-done music videos. Clearly some other talented people are finding this guy and offering to donate their hard work for him because they see how talented HE is and they want to get involved at the ground floor. I know how this works, it’s exactly how I got into the music business with Deadsy.
Well, we have a meeting with him at Interscope, then afterwards we go out for a couple beers at the other room. My friend Brendon from PATD even stopped by and he did a beatbox while Wax dropped a freestyle over it. It was impressive.
Even though I think this guy is insanely talented and probably very marketable, I still couldn’t really see myself going to the wall for a hip-hop artist. Of the other two artists I mentioned, The Drums have the marketability and WRM has the musical ability. Wax has BOTH, and could very well have the best chance of all three of actually making a lot of money someday, but even so, I just couldn’t get myself on board. My friend got the message and decided that it would be best to go solo on it. No harm, no foul. I will be mad at myself though if he goes on to have great success. Maybe I can sue for some damages or something.
So, whats the point of all this? Well, the point is that it isn’t easy to get into a management relationship with an artist, even when you may want to. It is a really big deal and you need to be ABSOLUTELY sure that you can commit your time and energy for at least 3 years to them. I also wonder what the artists think about when they’re making a decision. I think usually the big companies can WOW a new band with their rosters full of both successful artists and some credible artists - thrown in for good measure, but to me I feel like in that situation you can get lost in the shuffle, and you’ll be fighting for the attention of the staff with the other bands on the roster. Basically what I’m saying is bands should go with us because we’re a small company that can properly focus on all of our clients and give them all the attention that they deserve, DUH!
There is something big that I’m leaving out of this story, that the bunch of other amazing and talented young bands that I have found while this other stuff was going on that I would have liked to work with, the only problem is THEY ALREADY HAVE MANAGEMENT! And I’m talking about unsigned, new bands here. Some with only a few songs that they have written. It seems so fucking insane to me, it’s like a band starts up and boom, immediately they have someone managing them. There are virtually no talented bands out there without management, no matter how new they are or how few songs they have. Some can even get signed based off of buzz alone and hardly any music!
Now, a lot of the smaller bands just have some random managing them, not one of the “big dog” companies. It is probably a friend or maybe someone that books a local club that sees some potential and hopes to make a little money of them. If I wanted, I could probably negotiate with their existing manager some arrangement where they would cease their working relationship, the old manager would get their “sunset” (decreasing revenues of future earnings) and I could go on with the artist, but even that seems like too much trouble for an act that hasn’t shown an ability to generate any revenue. If you do something like that you want to make absolutely sure that band is not only amazing, but could definitely make you some coin to justify your time and the hassle of dealing with the former manager. Thus far, I haven’t found that band yet, but there are a some on my radar that I may change my thinking on. We’ll see.
If you know of anyone that you think is worthy, please feel free to send me a link to their stuff and I’d be happy to check em out. Until then, I’ll take my own advice and stay hungry on the hunt for the next great band.
JESUS this was supposed to be a brief posting, I’m beginning to think that is an impossible task for me. Anyway, this list is really in no particular order, but I’ll rank them for the sake of hierarchy.
1. Deadsy, “Commencement”
Yes I am heavily biased, but this was my favorite album for a long time, well before I worked for them. It has it all, highs, lows, ballads, dance songs, fucking insane brutality, and an epic song or two. All the songs are epic, really, and that cover just says it all: a cartoon picture of a prep school with ominous, dripping blood. Anyway, this album was way ahead of its time and it went over most peoples heads. It’s sad because it was really just too much for people to process, the whole band was. At least we will forever have this incredible record to remember what once was.
2. Michael Jackson, “Thriller”
I could have put “Off The Wall” up here, or even “Bad”, both hold equal claim to any greatest albums list, but Thriller gets the nod for not only its historical significance, but for being the album with both “Beat It” and the beautiful, dreamlike “Human Nature”. Beat It was of particular significance to me personally, it was the first video I remember ever seeing and I think it’s safe to say that it was the one that just knocked my 6-year old ass on the ground and then continued to kick my ass into submission. It’s responsible for making me fall in love with music, and setting me on course to be a part of the music industry at a high level. That Eddie Van Halen guitar riff, the imagery with the gangs fighting (they used real gang members as extras!), Michael’s red leather jacket and the elaborate choreographed dance sequence finale… DAMN. The rest of the album is incredible, with stellar production from Quincy Jones, the artistic conflict between them ultimately created such a powerful record that ended up being the biggest seller of all-time. Not that sales equal quality, but in this case the sales are definitely reflective of its power. Michael is the greatest performer of all time as far as I’m concerned, and he will greatly be missed.
Usually considered the greatest hip-hop album of all time, and I’d wholeheartedly agree. It is by FAR that, and it probably belongs in the top 20 albums EVER on ANYONE’s list, although those outside of old school rap heads probably aren’t even aware of its greatness. Nas’ popularity peaked many years later, and it took 7 years for this album to go platinum. That’s a damn shame considering its FLAWLESS from beginning to end, and what I would call the ultimate rap album. Every lyric, every beat, every hook, it is all perfect. The sample used on the intro alone is one of the sickest beats I’ve ever heard and they don’t even make use out of it, they just talk a bunch of shit on top of it. Almost a waste, but even that is classic. The album is almost entirely Nas alone, with only one real guest appearance, that being from AZ on “Life’s a Bitch”. Nas’ father Olu Dara also plays cornet on the track, and Q-Tip does the hook on the song that he produced for the album, “One Love”.
As for the other songs on the record, we could fill up a few days discussing them. The imagery he paints on the DJ Premier produced “NY State of Mind” is just insane, when I listen to it it makes me feel like I’m actually in the Queensbridge projects that he grew up in. Then there’s the production, handled entirely by an all-star cast of some of the genre’s finest, all providing some of their best work. When I first got this CD I freaked out when it ended, it was only 10 songs long, and one of them the intro track. I wanted more, damnit! But I’ve come to realize it’s perfect, and it does what most artists only dream of, it leaves you wanting, BEGGING for more. You can’t complain about a perfect album, no matter how long it is, and this album is most certainly perfect. I haven’t researched anything while writing this, this is all just my own ‘off the top’ thoughts, but as I quickly browse the Wikipedia entry of the record it’s clear that many others share almost my exact same thoughts. See for yourself.
4. David Bowie, “The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars”
Here’s another one where you could name a few of his albums that are worthy of spots on all-time greatest lists. I’m going with “Ziggy Stardust” because it is also flawless from beginning to end, and it also has quite a bit of historical significance. It charts highly on many “greatest records of all-time” lists, and has served as a huge inspiration for many great artists that followed. While some may argue over which is the greatest Bowie record musically, I don’t think anyone disagrees that this is THE quintessential Bowie record, and the one most closely associated with his name.
5. Slayer, “Reign in Blood”
This album is PURE thrash. When I say PURE, I actually mean that. The sound of the album sounds almost pure and pristine, considering its a thrash metal record with mostly satanic subject matter. The sound quality can be attributed to the great Rick Rubin who solidified himself as an incredibly skilled and versatile producer and took the band to an entirely new level on this record. While Rubin was known as mostly a hip-hop producer prior, this wasn’t actually the first rock album he worked on, but it definitely has gone on to have the greatest legacy. As for Slayer’s contribution to the album, they are definitely at their best here, sounding extremely raw and turbocharged. Kind of like a faster and extremely heavier version of The Stooges “Raw Power”. Again, this album is held in high regard across the critical spectrum. It is usually referred to as the heaviest album of all-time, the best “thrash metal” album of all time, the essential “death metal” album, and it is even considered the best metal album, EVER. All I will say is that it pounds the shit out of anything that has come since, and still sounds as fresh and groundbreaking today as it was back then. It’s a genre-defying record that still gets me off. Years after I have put most of my metal cd’s away, this one is still around and gets frequent spins. I absolutely love it.
So there’s my list. As the title states, I came up with this list in 2001 after watching High Fidelity. I think it stands up even today as a pretty solid list, with a good objective sampling of the best in the overall history of recorded music. I think most people would look at it and complain first about the inclusion of “Commencement”, a virtually unknown album among the masses, and then about the lack of older “classic” albums; I have nothing from the 60’s, and Ziggy Stardust is the only album on here that predates 1982. Most people consider pre-1980 as the golden years of commercial music, but I think the artists of the 60’s and 70’s get way too much credit. I’m not saying their music wasn’t great, but it has so much nostalgic perspective attached to it. Another factor is people aren’t as eager to put newer records on these lists because not as much time has passed since their release, and therefore there is some uncertainty about how they’ll hold up in the grand scheme of musical history. Nonetheless, I stand by these choices and even now, if I put together an updated list, it wouldn’t have more than 2 made before 1980.
I hope you check these albums out if you haven’t already. I have tried to make it easy to purchase them (click on the album pictures) and to learn more about them (click the album title), as well as the artists that made them (click on… you guessed it). I think I’ll probably do an update soon, I believe that you can never do a true “top 5 albums of all time” that exists across a continuum, you can only put together a list like this that is right for a particular moment in time.
If you think you have a worthy list, please send it in to and depending on if it’s good or bad, I may repost it with commentary.
This is Alphabeat. I have dug this band for awhile now, ever since I caught wind of them from touring on the festival circuit in the UK and Europe. Their first album (albums? I seem to have two different versions with slightly different tracklisting’s and sequencing) is definitely classic, in particular “Fascination”, “10,000 Nights” and “Boyfriend”. Those songs are close to flawless in my opinion, and I can’t imagine anyone that doesn’t like MUSIC in general not enjoying them.
Their sound kinda reminds me of Taylor Dayne, in particular this song. I’m not saying they sound EXACTLY like her, but their music kinda gives me the same vibe as hers. They are much more versatile though. They’re an entire band, not just a solo act. They also have two singers, a guy and a girl, so you get that great guy vs. girl dynamic between them as well as variety in the primary voice. And I really love a pop/dance outfit that uses instruments, writes their own music, and doesn’t try too hard.
Alphabeat has managed to fly somewhat under the radar, especially here in the US - that’s probably because you can’t get their album on iTunes. It’s hard to gauge the rest of the world, but it seems they haven’t really hit it big over in Europe either, which is where they’re from. Even with these 3 fantastic singles which have got a lot of DJ / club spins, I think the band has managed to remain mostly unknown. NOTE: popjustice loves them and gives them their due praise. Props to them, and to the fantastic allmusic.com blog for also taking note.
That all seems kind of strange to me, they seem to have the perfect formula to really blow up. Even moreso right now that it is “hip” to like POP music. I actually hate this phenomenon and will blog about it very soon.
Anyway, they have a new single which is just as flawless and fantastic as their earlier work. It’s called The Spell, and the video shows them dressed in the fashion of 80’s era Bowie / the B-52’s. The song is just incredible though. The video isn’t overdone with lame effects or neon or anything gimmicky like that, it’s mostly just a polished view of them performing, which in conjunction with a great song is all you need. Check it out:
I’m going to predict that they will blow-up, likely soon. They have been asked to support Lady Gaga in early 2010, and my guess is that will give them a huge boost in exposure and credibility here in the states. Which is lame, because these guys shouldn’t need the biggest pop star of the moment to give them any kind of boost in cred, in my opinion they’re the ones giving HER a shred of credibility, and they are the real stars of that show, hands-down.
Since I got into the music business just over 3 years ago, by far the most common question I get asked is “How did you get into that?” My initial reaction is always good old-fashioned networking, but I don’t know if that really does a good job of explaining it. So, without further adieu, here is the real story of how it happened, in excruciating detail.
Back in 2000, it was the height of the Napster craze and I was a college student. I loved this band called Orgy and I was looking for other artists like them. I had found out about this band called Deadsy that was somehow in league with Orgy, they had even worked on each others records. So I went on Napster and downloaded some of their songs. The first one I listened to was called “Anti-Pop” and it was a cover of a song by Kommunity FK, a very obscure LA band. That song didn’t really do much for me, in fact it had an almost annoying synth melody playing throughout the entire song. I didn’t really take to it, but a few weeks later I decided to check out one of the other songs I downloaded and one really stuck with me. It was called Cruella, if you want to check it out.
That song kind of became an obsession, and so it went with the rest of their music. It turned out that it was not only the music that intrigued me, but the bands entire essence and ethos. They had all this deep, rich imagery and allegory that they not only integrated into their music, but their look, their art, their clothes, EVERYTHING. It was unlike anything I have ever seen before and probably will ever see again.
At the time Deadsy was in a unique position. First, the band was the primary outlet of Elijah Blue, as in Elijah Blue ALLMAN, the child born of Cher and Greg Allmans very brief marriage. They had been signed to two different labels previously, and both times had an album completed and ready for release before it was shelved and they were dropped. They had recently signed to Korn’s imprint Elementree and they were finally readying their debut album ‘Commencement’ for release. They also had never toured, they had only played a few showcase shows around LA.
The result of their situation was that they were an “insider” band; well known within the industry but without a commercial release available in stores and without any tours to expose them, they had no real fans. As I mentioned, they had had two albums ready to go previously that were shelved, and in both cases promo copies were made and sent out in preparation for the albums release. Being in the height of the Napster era & the file-sharing hysteria that was going on at the time meant that I could fire up Napster and download all the music that they had recorded, even though I couldn’t go into a store and buy it. It was out there for anyone to find, IF they were looking for it - but at that time no-one really was aware or interested in them. I can honestly say that I was one of the first.
Another by-product of the era was the bands official website on the internet. The fact that they didn’t have many fans meant that they were somewhat accessible via the message board on their site. Both Elijah and their manager Josh posted there regularly and interacted with the few people that constituted their fanbase.
Here we have the initial foundation of how I would build a relationship with this band. Over the next few years, I did just about everything I could to nurture that relationship. I promoted the band every way that I could. I printed up my own marketing materials and distributed them. I flew out to their shows in California and drove to shows that were near me in Michigan. I was an active member of their message board and when a lot of new fans started joining the community, I didn’t “flame” them, I answered their questions with respect and courtesy. I was a model citizen.
I got one break when the band came through Detroit to do a solo show after they wrapped-up a long tour. This was to be their last show before flying back to LA, and they needed a ride to the airport the next morning. Luckily my parents had a mini-van that could accommodate all the knuckleheads, and I was in college so I probably skipped class, but I was able to do it. On one of the iciest drives I’ve ever experienced where I virtually was responsible for the safety of my favorite band, I appealed to them to let me come work for them on the road. I had no ‘road’ experience to speak of and I had no idea what I might be able to do for them, but I was convinced that this band was going somewhere and I needed to get involved with them. They actually seemed positive about the idea, although they did not have plans to go back out on the road for awhile. They were going to be working on their next album which meant I would have to wait.
I ended up having to wait for almost 3 years. I wasn’t just going to wait around for them forever, but I still held out hope that it could happen. There had been almost no activity with the band for those 3 years, no-one knew what was going on because they didn’t communicate very well during that period. There were rumors that Elijah had been in and out of rehab and that he was just in a bad place, but none of the fans were sure.
In mid-2006 I was a full-time graphic designer working in a studio in metropolitan Detroit. I was pretty happy overall but the work I was doing was getting stale. I was thinking that I maybe needed to go work for another company that was bigger and was doing more exciting work. Then one day, quite suddenly the word spreads that Deadsy will be going back out on the Family Values tour and releasing their sophomore album Phantasmagore just prior to the tour starting. This type of thing almost never happens in the record business, usually albums are planned well in advance of their release and touring takes place around an “album cycle”, all of this is basically to coordinate the marketing efforts to achieve the maximum impact. What Deadsy was doing was basically defying all the usual practices of an album release. I didn’t really care though, my chance was finally here and I was ready for it. A lot of people believe that luck isn’t something that just happens; it can be influenced and it favors the prepared, but that’s the catch - you have to be prepared. I think subconsciously I had always been prepared for that moment, I never let myself get involved with something that would make me unavailable for that call.
Here’s how it happened: I hadn’t talked to Josh (their manager) in quite awhile, but nonetheless I sent him an email saying that I saw they were going out on the tour and I wanted to remind them of my interest in working for them. He said that he would discuss it with Elijah and get back to me. The tour was actually starting already and so I was a little bit late, and I got worried after the first two shows came and went. Then on a Sunday I was just sitting in my apartment killing time when I got a call from an “unknown number”. That was unusual for me, almost every call I received was from a number that would display - but I thought for a second that every time Josh calls me it came up that way. I answer and sure enough, it was him. The words came out of his mouth as suddenly as the whole episode had been unfolding.
“Hey, its Josh. I hope you’re ready because we want to get you down here asap to start working for us. We’re going to put you on a flight tomorrow so you can meet up with us while we rehearse in Texas for a few days.”
For a moment I was speechless. My jaw dropped and I think I dropped to my knees in disbelief. In that instant I knew that my life was about to change drastically, and that I was getting a HUGE opportunity that I had waited VERY long for. That alone was so hard to comprehend, it was like telling people for years that you’re right about something all the while they don’t believe you, and then you FINALLY have your day when you can say “HA! I KNEW I was right!” The only problem was I couldn’t get on a plane the next day, even though I was prepared I still had a full-time job with open projects and such, I also had a lot of people that I needed to say goodbye to. I also needed to get out of my month-to-month lease and move all the shit out of my apartment. I figured I needed til the end of the week, or at least til Thursday. Then I could fly out Friday morning and get there in time for the show that day. I tied-up all my loose ends and had a talk with both my parents, my girlfriend, and my boss. Each conversation was very difficult. My boss was happy for me and understood. My girlfriend and I had been having problems but she knew it was an opportunity that I had to take. I think she saw this as a way for us to sort of go our separate ways and see what else was out there. My parents were disappointed, thinking that I was chasing a silly dream and giving up a good stable job and being very irresponsible. I tried telling them that I knew what I was doing, and while they have always been very supportive of me, I still think it was very hard for them to buy into this vision. The week went by pretty quick and on Friday I finally got on a plane to begin my career in the music business. It was August 4 2006, and I was flying to San Antonio, Texas.
Once I got my start with Deadsy, things happened kinda fast. I focused on doing a good job and being friendly and personable to everyone that I met out there. I also focused on bringing people up and fostering a fun vibe that people would enjoy being a part of. I had no idea what would happen or where the job would go, I always said that tour may be the only one I ever do but it would be such a good story to tell people, even something to talk about in a job interview that would make me stand-out from all the other candidates, but towards the end of the tour we found out that we had been offered the opening slot on a tour with the Deftones a month after FV was done. So my life on the road would be extended, at least another few months.
During the Deftones tour, I focused on the same things and I also made it a point to hang out with the deftones band & crew as much as I could. Their tour manager took an interest in me and the rumors started spreading that he was going to offer me a job with them. I downplayed it and denied it even though I could feel it was true, but still I found it hard to believe. I had always planned on using Deadsy as a launch-pad to work in the business, was it really going to happen like this, so soon? And with such a higher-profile band? The end of the tour came and I didn’t get any job offer, but I did have a talk with their Tour Manager where I gave him my contact info. I went home and within a few days he called me. He wanted to bring me out on an international tour with them, starting in South America, and including Japan, Australia, and all over Europe & Great Britain.
Again, I had the jaw-drop / knee-buckling experience that I had when I got my first break. This one was significantly bigger though, not only was I getting a LOT more money but I would be working for a much bigger band and going to places that I had always dreamed of. This was the point where my parents actually changed their perspective and actually thought what I was doing was not only legit, but COOL. They were in awe of the places I was going to get paid to go to. And so was I.
I’m going to glaze over a lot of details now, but after working for the Deftones for about half a year, the Tour Manager switched tours to go work for Incubus. They were just starting up a touring cycle. Again, he extended an offer for me to jump tours with him, with an even bigger pay increase. Now I was almost in shock with how much I was making, and I got to go back all over the world again. From there, the cycle kept repeating. I went from Incubus, to Panic at the Disco, to Cut Copy & The Presets, back to PATD, back to Cut Copy, and finally to the Offspring. All of the above happened in the course of 3 years with very little breaks in between tours. It was a grueling schedule, but that is the lifestyle. There were times when I thought that I could definitely do that for the rest of my life, continue tour managing and being a “road warrior”, I can at least say that it was never boring, but it was also really hard, both physically and mentally (mostly mentally). It’s almost impossible to hold down relationships in that situation, even friendships are tough to maintain. Somewhere in those 3 years, I decided that I wanted to transition to proper management after I had gotten a lot of knowledge of the live music business. I didn’t really know what my timeframe was, but it just so happened that it came just a few months before my 3 year anniv. of working on the road.
So that’s how it happened. I have really tried to include the details and not generalize or sensationalize anything for the sake of accuracy. I have told this story more than a few times to different people, some of them just curious as to how I managed to get here, and some people who are aspiring to get into the business just like I was. Some of the people I talk to are in a much better position than I was, but they still can’t manage to get their foot in the door. I think that what I did could be duplicated or recreated, and when you think about it it is probably a good way of getting “in”, although I would say it is definitely the “back door” and not the “front door”, at least for working on the business side. If you were wanting to work in the live business then it would be apropos to call it the “front door”, but it still wouldn’t be typical because I wasn’t a musician or a gearhead or anything really like that.
Along the way, many things had to go right for me, and there were gatekeepers and people giving me lucky breaks along the way that could have stopped me dead in my tracks at any given moment. There were also circumstantial things that worked in my favor, as we say in the office now “it was all timing and lighting”. The reality though is that I had a loose idea of this all happening way back when, all the way back in 2000 when I decided to “hitch my star” to Deadsy’s wagon. I didn’t know exactly how it would go down, and I actually thought that Deadsy themselves would blow up and if I could just get on board at the beginning then I would reap the benefits of that, but the point is that I somehow envisioned this happening and somehow, it did.
If you study self-help or the secrets of success & achievement, something they talk about a lot is visualization. Another way of saying it is “act as if”; if you want to be CEO of a company, act as if you’re the CEO of the company. Think about exactly what your day, life will be like when you get that position that you dream of. I used to visualize these things, oddly enough, even before I knew about the principles in terms of a strategy. Is that why I actually got here, because I visualized it? I don’t know, but it definitely didn’t hurt. I would say it helped, it wasn’t the only thing, but it was one of, if not the first thing I did. So, there it is, for what its worth.
If you’ve read this far, thanks to you for reading, thanks to Deadsy (specifically Elijah & Josh) for giving me my first break in the biz, thanks to Eddie Kercher for giving me my second break that would really get me up and running, and thanks to my parents for being so supportive and always believing in me even when it HURT. Remember, no-one will give you permission to do something in the real world, you have to give yourself permission to go out there and get what you want, and stake your own claim. Occasionally you’ll get a lucky bone thrown your way, and when that happens you’d better be ready for it because you probably won’t get a second one unless you make something of that first one.
Stay hungry!
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